Confrontation? Check. Picking on Google? Check. Entertainment? Check.
The Cannes Debate commenced at 12 noon on Friday, June 20th with a panel consisting of Kevin Johnson (Microsoft), Henrique de Castro (Google), Hilary Schneider (Yahoo!), Ron Grant (AOL) and moderated by Sir Martin Sorrel (WPP). This was supposed to be a session to discuss the topic "From Metrics to Brand Build – Online's Next Challenge" however on reviewing my notes, this was hardly discussed. Instead Sir Martin didn't waste a moment to dive in and ask more precise and pertinent questions on his mind as he began by cutting out the introductions in order to utilize every minute available. He also got around the "no questions" decision by "sneaking" in his Blackberry so that the audience could get in on the kill. You can view the first 5 minutes here.
Before the session Chris Dobson (Microsoft) commented to me saying "I hope they don't dance around their handbags". In fact, we were not disappointed as this session was all about confrontation (and attack?). Who can forget Sir Martin for labeling Google as a frenemy to agencies. This time he asked Google if they were Frenemies or Froes, to which Google responded "we only have friends". Sure.
Sir Martin started off by indicating that the combined revenue of WPP, Omnicom, Publicis and IPG amount to $ 26 billion in 2007 revenue whereas those on the panel (Microsoft, Google, Yahoo! and Time Warner) account for $120 billion. He also commented on the fact that Google and Yahoo! were appropriately seated together. Gotta love the dry English humour.
No More Microhoo
He kicked off by asking about the hottest topic of the moment – the Microhoo failed partnership and new Google/Yahoo venture.
- Yahoo!'s response was all about "offering the best experience to advertisers and users" by augmenting search marketplace and opening up queries to partners. Yahoo! essentially said a lot but it was difficult to pin point down exactly what her answer was.
- Google emphasized that the interest in Yahoo! is due to their properties (and ultimately a chance to break more into display advertising).
- Microsoft then followed, with a stellar performance by Kevin Johnson whose voice projected way above the other panelists as he made his points most clearly. He praised getting to know Yahoo!'s Management, outlined the deal background and progress, really showing how much they would give Yahoo!'s shareholders and achieve synergies in consolidation in the search market for the industry. So essentially he emphasized what a fantastic deal it was and ended up highlighting what a loss to all this result is.
- AOL finished by saying that they weren't in the search business at all with a focus on reach, relevance and richness in advertising. Their goal is to help marketers build brands online (with a clear differentiated positioning to all the other panelists talking about their search and DM focus).
How do you describe yourselves?
Sir Martin was very interested in this answer based on Eric Schmidt's description of Google at Davos as an advertising partner, and Ballmer's at Microsoft's recent 20 minute discussion on the importance of advertising at a recent Microsoft CEO conference.
- Google responded that they're a technology company and "definitely not an advertising agency" to which Sir Martin jumped in saying, "then why did you just hire an Ogilvy Creative Director in NY?". Clearly Sir Martin wasn't happy about his talent being poached and wanted some answers. Google spluttered a bit and didn't really respond powerfully – perhaps caught somewhat off guard.
- Yahoo! then gave a wordy answer covering every possible strategy for consumers and advertisers including "being the world's largest publisher" and providing relevant content and context. In addition, they're also a technology company. So basically they everything to everyone. Not the best company positioning as we learn in all Marketing101 courses. The Yahoo! answers sounded like they were pre-recorded from a press release.
- Microsoft followed in response to Sir Martin's emphasis that Ballmer has committed to 25% of revenue coming from advertising by 2012. Microsoft is a software and services company with 4 core businesses: desktop (Windows and Office), enterprise (server products), modern consumer electronics (Xbox, Zune, phones) and online business. He took the opportunity to discuss the vision extending Windows, Office and Xbox to Live to make advertising possible, as well as building out the advertising platform.
Sir Martin then diverted to ask Microsoft (and using Microsoft as a bridge to get to Google): Are you seeking to disintermediate agencies? He had been waiting a full 24 minutes to ask this. Microsoft emphasized all their partnerships and relationships proving the strategy to build via partnerships offer them financial prosperity. Sir Martin then referred to Terry Semel's arrival being instrumental in turning around Yahoos! previous attempts to exclude agencies.
- AOL responded saying they are essentially 3 companies: Platform A (display network), Digital Publishing (focused on launching new sites to grow audience and offer premium content) and People networks (embracing social media empowering with AIM, ICQ and Bebo).
What is your company doing to help bigger budgets get online?
Sir Martin outlined how WPP do $ 900 million with Google (5%) and normal market share with media owners is 25%. Google have traction with smaller and medium-sized companies however the big consumer budgets are with P&G, Unilever and Nestle. However, these companies are not spending a lot online. He addressed the panel asking "what is your company doing about it? "
- Microsoft responded that they simplify the buy-sell process by automating and changing the workflow and platform with Atlas and drivePM. Microsoft also mentioned accountability to enable advertisers to have insight into the value of their advertising. He used this segueway to talk about their new Engagement Mapping technology with an algorithm to value an entire campaign's components impacting conversion (this signals the end of last click attribution and is another Google-killer so that budgets get spread more fairly and away purely from search). A very smart strategy if you ask me.
- Google said how they help companies understand the role of their website as well as be clear about objectives (ROI vs Awareness). Google likes to work with agencies and direct advertisers to figure this out. He then opened Pandora's Box by saying how agencies are still working traditionally, and therefore Google work directly with advertisers to force agencies to change.
Sir Martin then jumped in saying how "Google says things, but behave in a different way" referring to "Google going directly to advertisers but not for the previously mentioned reasons". He asked directly "is this deliberate chaos or an orchestrated scheme?" The entertainment quotient reached a crescendo as the audience erupted with applause. Google responded that they don't have a 5 year plan but try things and then adapt. I personally have spoken to Henrique before and he told me directly that they don't feel they need agencies as they talk mainly to sales managers using search as a sales and distribution (e-commerce) channel, making them less reliant on advertising as a whole. Since the acquisition of YouTube, they've started building out agency teams, but it's not their main bread and butter (as it is with Microsoft and Yahoo).
The conversation got provocative when Sir Martin asked "Is Google about disintermediating (consciously or unconsciously) other businesses?"
Now the rest of the panel visibly being left behind as the Sir Martin vs Google shootout continued. Sir Martin emphasized how their automation of processes (which Microsoft had actually just referred to as part of their new strategy) eliminates the need for people, and with 100,000 people employed by WPP, this is obviously something he's concerned about. Google reassured that they don't intend to replace the people in the advertising world and they still need their own people in roles like client service, engineers and R&D.
- Microsoft then jumped in saying that their core focus is to help partners prosper (while Microsoft prospers as well of course) and then Microsoft used some airtime to highlight their interest in partner productivity and emphasize how tools like Silverlight, Engagement Mapping and so forth will help empower agencies.
- Yahoo! then elaborated how they work with top 200 brands and agencies. The creation of tools and platforms take friction out of the process and this is the foundation behind the platform strategy. They focus on connecting brands with content and providing the consumer with context.
- AOL's focus ison brand building, targeting, creating transparency and measuring. They look at problem-solving and people, thereby saying "technology should be the background". A clever way to differentiate from the other technology heavy-weights on the panel and in the marketplace.
There was some discussion on video and Microsoft pushed their partnership for Olympics content, focus on IPTV, VOD capability and new Navic acquisition. Sir Martin said how gutted he was to have missed on the acquisition as his pockets weren't deep enough!
Sir Martin then, based on questions emailed during the session to his Blackberry, expressed how the main audience concern about the new Yahoo!-Google's monopoly with 90% market share with high prices, restriction of choice and lack of competition. The answer from Google and Yahoo! was very sugar-coated and all about commitment to giving advertisers better results, offering consumers better results etc. Yawn. Not very reassuring. He also asked about cash-back. Sir Martin then focused AGAIN on Google (to which an audience member then commented, "Why isn't the Google guy fighting back?")
- Google said they have no monopoly where consumers can decide by clicking away to competitors and advertisers don't pay according to fixed CPM's but a bidding system.
- Microsoft said that when faced with a strong competitor their focus is on innovation e.g. around search queries and disruption of business models, e.g. systems like cash-back. This essentially rewards users with cash for shopping via the Microsoft and partner network. To me, this is like incentivizing channel choice such as with discounts on internet travel bookings versus via traditional channels or simply put, paying folks to come to your party. ;-) He really nailed it when he said "Search connects buyers with sellers, so why is it the middleman keeps all the money?". This system is about providing a better consumer experience, more rewards and better value to advertisers via better conversion rates (early data shows 4-5 x conversion rates versus traditional search).
AOL were then give some floor time when asked how they will avoid further consolidation and competition. They once again talked about focusing on display and that the fact that this won't be a winner takes all scenario and there is enough of the market available for them to be successful.
The final question before every left for their respective boat trips and lunches was, what worries you ?
- AOL kicked off by saying that they are not worried but more focused on executing and solving marketers problems whilst not destroying the fragile relationships as brands start moving online and more human capital moves into the industry. Their worry then would be "doing things the right way".
- Microsoft's concern is dealing with scale on a macro level with the range of businesses. How do they continue to deliver great experiences, enable partners to innovate and be agile enough considering the range of offerings? Another worry is having more than 1 main competitor, which is of course also an industry worry, so Microsoft definitely played into the hearts of the audience with this comment.
- Yahoo! is focussed on continuing their strategy. Once again, not a very crisp response.
- Google want to understand better what consumers do and provide better experiences across search, ads across platforms to enable partners and apps (like Gmail) to make more successful. Larry and Sergey's focus is always on serving the consumer the the right way.
Sir Martin ended by comparing the messages from the powerful panelists with comments from Putin's deputy at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum about Russia:
- 1. Don't fear us
- 2. Trust us
- 3. Prosperity through partnership
Without a doubt Microsoft had the strongest panelist with Kevin Johnson, and a more fair debate would have been with Jerry Yang and Eric Schmidt. I hope you've enjoyed reading this long and detailed overview. Please feel free to comment! I have an audio file from the debate so drop me a mail if you would like to receive it.